Mark Dankof: Hello Texas America and the world. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas On the Republic Broadcasting network. We hope to have here on our number two hook up shortly with Adnan Oktar who is an Islamic Creationist and who has written a lot of things under the penname Harun Yahya. I have found about this guy in the front page of the Wall Street Journal some months ago. Fascinating individual he has been in all kinds of media shows in this country including Gordon Liddy show to talk about his views about Creation and many other things related to the doctrine of creation and what he claims to be the death of Darwinist ideology. Yahya also has a lot of things to say about the Middle East and about Freemasonry. And the whole host of topics that I felt would make for an interesting discussion with him this morning. I understand we now have Adnan Oktar on with us from Istanbul Turkey. How are you Sir?
Babuna: This is Ahmet Babuna.
Adnan Oktar: Fine, thank you.
Mark Dankof: We’ve been reading a number of things in the West about your website and about your books. Tell us a little bit about your Atlas of Creation. We only have a couple of minutes before this commercial break, then of course we will be back to you. But tell us a little bit about this Atlas of Creation.
Adnan Oktar: The Atlas of Creation is a work prepared to explicate the truth clearly with pictures, to the Darwinists who fooled the world. There are 250 million fossils that prove the fact of creation. I have used some of those in this Atlas. And I have scientifically proved the fact that proteins can in no way come into existence through coincidences. These are the points explicated in the book.
Mark Dankof: We will be back with Adnan , this is Marc Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas on the Republic Broadcasting Network we are taking a brief commercial break and then we will be back with Adnan Oktar coming to us live from Istanbul Turkey. Stay tuned.
Mark Dankof: We are back. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas on the Republic Broadcasting Network. We have a telephone hook up this morning with Mr.Adnan Oktar of Istanbul Turkey. Also known to many through his penname Harun Yahya. You can find his website at www.harunyahya.com. We will be including that in the show description for the archives so that people who’ll listen to this show later on will be able to directly access that website. Mr.Oktar is the writer of 300 books. His books are translated in more than 50 languages. His works include the Atlas of Creation. And the collapse of Darwinism, he has written many things on the Turkish Islamic Union that he advocates. And he has some very interesting views on Eschatology or the Doctrine of the End Times in regard to the appearance of Jesus Christ eventually at the end of the history as well as the so-called Mahdi. He also has some very interesting ideas about what would produce peace in the Middle East, what would in fact be the best political arrangement for the Muslim countries, has a lot of very interesting ideas about Israel the Jews as well. There are other websites that are instructive on this. Something called the islamicunion.com and www.turkishislamicuninon.com as well as number of appearances in the international media which you will also find to be profitable. Adnan getting back to where we were before the commercial break; your book the Atlas of Creation, you indicate that the ideology of Darwin is dead that it is no longer valid. Can you share with us some of your thoughts on this?
Adnan Oktar: I am telling these completely basing on scientific resources. Because this is what the paleontology science shows us. More that 250 million fossils prove creation, that is to say we see from the analysis carried on the fossils that the structures of the living things today are exactly the same with the ones that lived a hundred million years ago, that lived two hundred million years ago. This is a proof that raze Darwinism to the ground on its own. Secondly there is not even a single intermediary fossil. The ones they present as intermediary fossils are all fossils of perfectly structured, complete species. Darwinists do not even know what an intermediary fossil is. Thirdly it is not possible even for an amino acid to come into existence through mere coincidences, let alone a protein. Besides when we study the structure of chromosomes, this improbability increases geometrically. Darwinism had collapsed scientifically from all directions. However some people such as the likes of Dawkins continue to mislead and misinform the public. But it is not possible for anyone who had read this Atlas of Creation to be fooled by these false beliefs of Dawkins. Even someone who had only read ten-twenty pages of this atlas would come to a certain conclusion on this matter. Insha’Allah.
Mark Dankof: Yes. What does Adnan see as the societal dangers involved in the acceptance of Darwinist theory?
Adnan Oktar: Darwinism is the reason of the breaking out of the World War I and the World War II. Darwinism is the originating point of communism, fascism, terrorism. It is again Darwinism that had caused the people to be distraught in China. Darwinism is also the reason why the people are suffering now in this economic crisis. Moreover, the worst is that love had been taken away from people. People are looking at each other with fear and suspicion. The vast majority of the people had become egoistic and selfish. The humanity had lost the true love. And that sure is a grave damnation that Darwinism had brought upon people. Darwinism had caused the slain of 350 million people in World War I and World War II and in terror. Apart from this, it had caused more than a billion people to become physically disabled. And it had caused people to become widows and orphans. This is an immense cruelty. And actually Darwinism, the corruption caused by Darwinism is the system of anti-christ, the anti-christ conception. We come to the conclusion that the anti-christ conception is Darwinism, by viewing all those calamities it brought upon humanity.
Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Mao had all stated, also Hitler and also Mussolini , that they had taken their system of thinking from Darwinism. For instance Mao says: “Chinese communism is founded upon Darwin and the theory of evolution. “ This is what Mao says. The others as well state clearly that they all have developed their theories and their way of thinking from Darwinism.
Mark Dankof: Very interesting. I have found some of Adnan’s views on the End Times of History to be very interesting. What does he see as some of the signs of the approach of the end of History what does he believe about the second coming Jesus Christ and also about the Mahdi that we hear much about in the West in terms of Islamic Theology.
Adnan Oktar: I have told the signs of the appearance of the Mahdi to Oktar before. Let him tell you about those shortly.
Ahmet Babuna: Now, since Mr.Adnan Oktar told me to explain you some of the signs of the appearance of the Mahdi and I will give you some of the signs which are stated in the hadith of our prophet Mohammed (pbuh). So in the hadith it is mentioned there is going to be a bloody attack on the Kaba and that happened in 1979, there was a bloody attack in the Kaba 400 people were dead. It is stated in the hadith there is going to be the stopping of the flow of the Euphrates that happened and that was realized in 1975. The occupation of Afghanistan was mentioned in the hadith by our prophet and that happened in 1979. Iran-Iraq war was mentioned in the hadith and that happened as you know in 1980’s and the smoking fire covers the sky that was mentioned in the hadith. And one of the largest oil tankers of the world The Independenta exploded in Istanbul in 1979 exactly described in the hadith. Eclipses of the moon and the sun 15 days apart and in the month of Ramadan as stated in the hadith and this has exactly happened in 1981/82, two following years in the month of Ramadan fifteen days apart eclipses of the sun and moon as a sign of the emergence of the Mahdi. Emergence of a comet was described in the hadith and that happened Halley comet passed the 1986.
Mark Dankof: We will be back. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas on the Republic Broadcasting Network. We will be back with Adnan Oktar, the Islamic Creationist from Istanbul, Turkey when we return.
We are back. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas on the Republic Broadcasting Network. We are joined today by Adnan Oktar the Turkish Muslim intellect who is an advocate of an anti-darwinistic creation theory. You can find his website and believe me is a fascinating website;at www.harunyahya.com . I first found out about this gentleman through reading Andrew Higgings piece on Wall Street Journal back on march 17th. It was on page 1 of the Wall street journal and that particular article is online if you google it you will definitely find it. And Adnan Oktar also known as Harun Yahya has been interviewed Mr. Tom Hannigan, Senior religion editor at Reuters he has been on Gordon Liddy show, Radio America BBC has done a documentary on this gentleman. Many places throughout the international news media, where his writings , his thinking and his commentary continued to crop up. So I thought it was important that we have him on this show. So we are having a very interesting time with him this morning. Adnan, as we talk about the signs of the End Times of History and the coming, as you see it, both of Jesus Christ and the one who is called the Mahdi in Islamic Theology. When do you think , when do you believe that we are likely to see the end of history. How much time would you guess is left in human history as we know it?
Adnan Oktar: We are waiting for the doomsday on 2120. This is a factual information. That is to say; people should prepare themselves according to this truth. I am telling you a clear and open fact. Insha’Allah.
Mark Dankof: Yes, very very interesting. I notice in reading through many of your writings and essays that there is a discussion, you’ve published a book on this subject, and I think this is a very important thing to discuss this morning. You’ve published a book and a video entitled Islam denounces terrorism. Now in the united States there are many people who equate Islam and terrorism. You on the other hand indicate that Islam denounces terrorism. Explain your views on this to us this morning.
Adnan Oktar: Islam demands love, peace and brotherhood. Terror is a reflection of the soul of the Satan. It is an act demanded by the Satan. When we look at people who claim to be Muslim but perform acts of terrorism, we see that all of them had received Darwinist education. They have all been educated in Europe, in UK, in Denmark, in Norway, or in Egypt, in some Islamic countries. However all of them had received extreme Darwinist education. They all have admiration towards socialism and communism. Consequently it is not possible for a true Muslim to defend terror or violence. A Muslim is a compassionate and gracious person. In the Qur’an the All-mighty Allah tells us to forgive even the ones that had committed murder. Compassion and love is the foundation of our religion.
Mark Dankof: Yes I have been reading some recent communications coming from Istanbul, I notice that couple of months ago Adnan had a meeting with three so-called San Hedrin Rabbis. It has caught the attention of many people in the international media that Adnan Oktar has an approach on Jews and the so-called reestablishment of the Solomonic Mosque in Jerusalem. That have caught great attention around the world. When we come back from this commercial break, I want to ask the question; what is his approach on Jew, the design of the state of Israel, and possible co-existence with the Islamic world? This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas On the Republic Broadcasting network. We will be back with Adnan Oktar of Istanbul ,Turkey when we come back.
We’re back. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas on the Republic Broadcasting network where we have been having a conversation with Adnan Oktar also known as Harun Yahya of Istanbul, Turkey. He is an internationally known Islamic Creationist you can find his website on www.harunyahya.com. That website will be written in the archive in the description of the show and those of you checking the archive can click on it directly and go to this most fascinating website. Among many other things Mr.Oktar has published a recent book entitled the atlas of creation. That book was discussed on the front page of the Wall Street Journal back in March. Absolutely incredible volumes which critic Darwinism very very effectively I understand, and it is getting a lot of worldwide attention. Which is why he is on this show this morning. Adnan before the break we were talking about the meeting that you have had with this three Rabbis a few months ago in your home town of Istanbul. Your particular approach to Jews and to the Solomonic Mosque or temple in Jerusalem has caught great attention in the international media. Explain this to us please.
Adnan Oktar: The thinking system of the Anti-christ is preparing a massive bloody plot in the world. This plot is to play the Muslims, Christians and Jews against each other. They are telling the Muslims that Christians and the Jews are the antichrist and they all have to be removed. They are telling the Christians, particularly to the Evangelicals that the Muslims and Jews, or a considerably big part of the Jews constitute the army of the antichrist and thus they have to be removed and they are seducing them into war. And they say that this is a holy war. Moreover they claim that this is the command of the Gospel. The same instilling is also given to the Jews. They are recommended to destroy the people from other religions and they are being recommended to make bloody massacres. This is the plot of the antichrist. We will put out this plot. Instead we will ensure that the Christians will live their religion freely, that the Muslims will live theirs freely, and that the Jews will live their religion freely. This is a feature of the times of the Mahdi. This is what the Mahdi would do and he will facilitate this and provide us this blessing. There are maximum ten years left for the coming of the Blessed Messiah. I mean in ten to fifteen years time the Blessed Messiah will come insha’Allah. And when he comes Islam would prevail the whole world. He himself would come back to earth as a Muslim and he will rule the whole world. However in the time left until that period all three religions will live comfortably and in blessings. This will be provided by the Mahdi insha’Allah. Insha’Allah.
Not a single drop of blood will be shed during the time of the Mahdi. There is a hadith about that. The hadith states that a sleeper would not be awaken, even the birds on the air and the fish in the sea will agree with him and it is clearly stated that not even a drop of blood would be shed. There will be no big wars from now on. There will be no bloodshed after this point. There are some ignorant people among the Muslims who await for that, and also among the Christians there are some ignorant ones. There is a false belief which regards shedding the blood of millions, billions of people as a holy act. These people are waiting in vain, there will be no such bloodshed. We are entering an era of peace, the era of the Mahdi, the era of the Messiah, Insha’Allah.
There are some Evangelicals who are trying to distort the issue, they defend a belief that there will be only one religion and consequently the Buddhists and other people who do not believe in Allah will be living by a single religion. That is evidently not the case, everyone will be living by his own religion. Muslims will live as Muslims, Christians will live as Christians, Jews will live as Jews but they all will live in peace. That is a superb aim, this is the aim of the era of the Mahdi. In this era, of course we will rebuild the mosques. We will repair the graves of the prophets which went ruin, the cities in which prophets lived, that went ruin. And also the beautiful mosque of the Prophet Solomon and that is highly praised in the Qur’an, it is also praised in the Torah in great details. We will of course repair, rebuild this beautiful mosque that had collapsed. We will beautify it again. At the moment there is a special area saved for it in Jerusalem, there is a convenient place insha’Allah, we will rebuild that mosque. However there are also other mosques built by prophets which went to ruins and we will rebuild them as well. Christians, Muslims, Jews, we will pray there comfortably alltogether insha’Allah.
The arrival of the Messiah is very near. I am telling you these for you to get to know him when he does. He has long hair, his hair will be long till his shoulders, the color of his hair will be in between golden and light brown. He has a small nose, a beautiful face, grey eyes. He has broad shoulders and an athletic body, thin waist and is of middle height. And he has a very sharp and clear gaze. He has the most beautiful and high morals. He will have two-piece dress on him when he first comes, his yellow dress, a yellow colored two piece dress. He will insha’Allah be left sleeping in a Christian community, a Christian community resembling to Islam, he will be left there in his sleep insha’Allah.
We will know him by his incredible good morals and incredible beauty, the fantastic brightness and radiance of his beautiful face insha’Allah and the world will become Muslims in his times. There are two verses in the Qur’an which state that Islam will prevail the world in his times. Islam will prevail the world by his tend. They will act together with the Mahdi, and he will bring the Mahdi to the front as the Imam and they will perform their prayers together. He will be buried next to our Prophet (pbuh), even his grave is ready. There is a special place preserved for the Prophet Jesus(pbuh), the blessed Messiah. Our prophet (pbuh) said; “bury him beside me.” When he arrives he will live, he will spend his life, he will rule the world together with the Mahdi and he will be buried next to our Prophet when he dies.
This economic crisis is also a sign for the arrival of the Messiah. It is mentioned in the Torah and it is said that it will last for seven years. It is stated in the Torah and also in the hadith and in the Qur’an as well. This economic crisis which will last for seven years is a sign for the coming of the Blessed Messiah and it had been actualized.
Mark Dankof: I noticed that Adnan has some political ideas too, that relate to the present political order in the Middle East and central Asia. Its been stated that his ideal is the establishment of a Turkish-Islamic Union in which all Muslim countries will unite spiritually and in which Turkey will serve as a role-model and spiritual leader in the region. Explain this to us please.
Adnan Oktar: The spiritual leader of this political union will be Turkey insha’Allah, yes. It will be the Turks. They will build the peace and brotherhood in the world insha’Allah. All the wars will be abated, all the weapons will be removed. This is a fact stated in the Torah and also in the hadith. There will be no weapons left in the world, that is to say not even toy weapons would remain. And no blood would be shed. Some of the Evangelicals talk about a person who calls for peace in the beginning and then for war at the end. This is the Anti-Christ. We are against that. The forthcoming Mahdi and the Blessed Messiah (as) will defend peace in the beginning and they will also defend peace in the end. That is to say they will stand for peace on continuous basis and they will remove the weapons from the face of this world. This misleading ideology is the one serving the antichrist. For instance again in the antichrist ideology it is said that the Satanists, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians all will be of one religion. There is no such thing. That only occurs because of the misunderstanding of our Evangelical brothers and because of their being misinformed. I am talking about only three religions, Muslims, Christians and Jews. All of those will live their religions freely. And no pressure or violence will be exerted upon the members of other religions. That is to say it will be a democratic environment. And after a short while Islam will prevail the whole world.
We have come to the end of the life of this world according to the Torah and also according to the hadith we are at the end times of the world. I mean it will happen in this century. There is no time for the Messiah to arrive other than this century. We have only this century according to the Torah. It is this century according to the hadith as well. I mean you can also learn this from the Rabbis, from the Torah, that is a very evident fact.
Mark Dankof: We will be back. We are back. This is Mark Dankof’s America coming to you live from San Antonio Texas On the Republic Broadcasting network. We just have a couple of minutes left from the show I would like to thank Adnan Oktar of Istanbul, Turkey for being on here at hour number two. He is an internationally known Islamic Creationist and you can find his website at www.harunyahya.com as harunyahya.com and our archive also in description will have a link to that website.
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